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Pre-Pwipe Updates
Professor 10:39 PM on September 06, 2012 [ edited by Professor at 12:21 AM on 09-07-2012 ] (+2/-0)

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Since FFO is going to pwipe, there's going to be some changes. It always happens. The problem though is when large changes happen out of nowhere for very poor reasons because it completely disregards what we've learned from the previous hosting to touch up the game and creates many other problems. It's like trying to throw a brick into a missing space in an unstable brick wall, there's the chance of it working but 90% of the time you'll throw everything else off balance.

This hosting, there's been a constant high number of players, which hasn't happened since the game was removed from the HUB. There are things that don't appeal to some players, but that happens in every online game. The point is we're actually getting people playing, regardless of what the few players out of over a hundred that have played this hosting say to try to prove this wrong.




Of course, there are some things that need to be touched up, as I mentioned. Here is what I think needs to be done, with some other's ideas included:

-Frost and Dark Dragon health increased to 10k (relative to Ember's current 12k)
-Increased stat buff to champion versions of monsters, with same drop values
-Draven wrote:
Low level chars unable to retain any item with a value of (level x 3k) or more unless engraved. Restriction removed upon leaving Newbie Island.

OR
Dr. Letha wrote:
If the prof requirement of an unengraved item on a Newbie character is seven profs higher than their prof for the type of said item, it is dropped upon logout/death.

-Increase army unit stats by 50% OR increase army mres
-Extend siege time by one hour (possibly)
-Disguises unable to be scried
-Remove ninja from being unmasked upon death
-Bump ninja slightly above speed cap and slightly lower damage
-Chakra slightly increased effect per prof
-PvP percentage changes take effect upon spawning instead of immediate death/kill


If you have questions about any of these, ask for the reason before trying to argue it.

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Hydrocrush 11:01 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Low level chars unable to retain any item with a value of (level x 3k) or more unless engraved. Restriction removed upon leaving Newbie Island.

what will determine the value

upgrade sell or engrave of the item


also why not have the army stats scale with the level cap so it changes with the cap


and do we have a new lv cap yet?

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Professor 11:04 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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reply to Hydrocrush:

Ask Kumog about the value stuff.

Army already scales to level cap.

Level cap discussion should be in a different topic, but if changed should definitely not be more than 10 different, for the reasons posted above.

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Niten 11:04 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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i say all classes should have same modifier on boot suffixes.
because masters and ninjas will be slightly faster, still have that cap though.

when you die, add 1-2 proffs to "proffs to level" so there's an actual penalty besides death sickness to dying.

making it 1 character per key would be interesting, because it would take out a lot of garland alts and mules in one. although people like to play multiple classes, maybe have a max of two characters?

army stats increase should be applied, but not necessarily 50%. they definitely need a Health increase though.

also, make it so teir 3 items spawn from shops only again, making it harder to find gear.




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Exophus 11:11 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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I still think something should be done bout dis:

http://www.terulia.com/?t=3587#unread

Very lame that you can't use alternative armor types until you already outlevel the content you'd want to use it for.

Aside from that, I think EEs could be reopened if instead of spawning in the room they did, there was a staircase to another, more open floor where they would spawn. The problem before was that they were too easy to kill with choke points. Maybe buff their stats a bit.

I thought I had another suggestion but can't really remember. Will post if I think of it.

Edit: I'd also be in favor of a lvl 60-65 level cap.

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JeebsLuvsPie 11:33 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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Bring back Earth Elementals with tweaked last floor.





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Iris 11:34 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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Why would you lower the already low ninjas damage...

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Iris 11:35 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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JeebsLuvsPie wrote:
Bring back Earth Elementals with tweaked last floor.




And yes


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Professor 11:38 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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reply to Iris:

It's close to on par with master damage, really. The only reason I never had a problem with ninja damage before was because of the problems with speed cap and disguises getting nerfed with scry and back with the citizen cult. Before these were problems, everyone was yelling "nerf ninja" with good reason. So basically, if the other things get fixed up, this will accommodate for it so that we aren't back to where we were with ninja way before.

Besides, it's only slight.

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Iris 11:39 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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Actually it isnt

Ive played ninja all wipe i should know

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Draven 12:12 AM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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Item value would be the price one would pay for the item in the shop. So if it were to cost 27k in shop, you'd have to be at least level 9 to hold onto it unless it is engraved to you.

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Professor 12:18 AM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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Vigo had the idea of giving army units increased mres (as opposed to NPC mres or whatever they currently have) instead of increasing their stats.

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DeshTheWraith 5:45 AM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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reply to Draven:

I like that idea but if we do that can we increase the amount of unengraved items players can carry? Or even remove it. It screws with my ability to carry multiple armor sets because I'll drop them all every time I log out or die.

I'm not a paranoid ***** like everyone else, I just walk around with my stuff unengraved until I have the gold to engrave it and the item limit wasn't really stopping mules, just messing with people that were actually carrying legit gear on a legit character.



Pls

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Hydrocrush 10:35 AM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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i would like it to be added that % lost from death becomes very low or only goes down from afking

or that if you are deathsick it goes down slower and slower


to prevent having others get rid of your negitives

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Smiffah 10:46 AM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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Dafuq, if you a Level 50, u only can carry items which value 150k? if u relog with that u would drop? O.o? so i would never can carry a giant blade , or i would need go walk back to store the item, or keep it on a house until i engrave to use it?

I agree about the profs necessary to use it, cuz basing on lv and the value its stupid.

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Look at the truth about Nigas...


Black Belt says: Why?
Black Belt laughs out loud.
Tyranus says: Gimme all your money.
Tyranus says: Im a niga.
Black Belt says: Nah.
You filch 552 gold.
You have been labeled an outlaw of Argo.
You filch 551 gold.
You filch 257 gold.
Black Belt has died at the hands of Tyranus!
 
Hazedreamfreysaraboy 11:17 AM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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Smiffah wrote:
Dafuq, if you a Level 50, u only can carry items which value 150k? if u relog with that u would drop? O.o? so i would never can carry a giant blade , or i would need go walk back to store the item, or keep it on a house until i engrave to use it?

I agree about the profs necessary to use it, cuz basing on lv and the value its stupid.


I'm assuming that it would only apply for newbie characters?

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Smiffah 11:23 AM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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i hope

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Look at the truth about Nigas...


Black Belt says: Why?
Black Belt laughs out loud.
Tyranus says: Gimme all your money.
Tyranus says: Im a niga.
Black Belt says: Nah.
You filch 552 gold.
You have been labeled an outlaw of Argo.
You filch 551 gold.
You filch 257 gold.
Black Belt has died at the hands of Tyranus!
 
Professor 11:39 AM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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reply to Smiffah:

Restriction removed upon leaving Newbie Island.
Restriction removed upon leaving Newbie Island.
Restriction removed upon leaving Newbie Island.


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Niten 7:26 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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make so a masters ability throw, can also throw deadbodies.


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Niten has died at the hands of Knight!
Hekate casts Life on you!
Hekate has died at the hands of Mr Bob!
Kumano has died at the hands of Hashmal!
Black Wizard has died at the hands of Niten!
Niten says: I SHALL FIGHT BWAHAHAHAHAHA.
Hashmal casts Lit 2 on you!
Niten has died at the hands of Hashmal!
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