Lumino wrote:

Please kindly point out a topic where I attacked you without you throwing the first 'You understand nothing haha' insult first. And by you I mean you or Cea, since I pretty much treat you as one person anyway.

I've asked several times for a peaceful conversation without insults, if you cannot comply, well then I guess that issue is already resolved.

okay I know ya'll aren't slow enough to realize how ignorant this is are ya.........

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Makes perfect sense to me Sincea.

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Every time I post to one of you, the other responds. It's like the tag team match from hell, not to mention you are always of like minds on the forums, or at least the lions share of the time. So really 'Sinsie and Cea' are more of one being then two separate entities.

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Lumino wrote:

Every time I post to one of you, the other responds. It's like the tag team match from hell, not to mention you are always of like minds on the forums, or at least the lions share of the time. So really 'Sinsie and Cea' are more of one being then two separate entities.

lrn2frendship

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I could sugarcoat my posts for everyone, Lumino, but I'm not like that. Sorry.

Anyways, this should sum up how I feel about this whole situation:

XIDarkLotusXI (9:13:56 PM): why so strict about whatevers goin on?
XIDarkLotusXI (9:13:59 PM): they were joking in dsay
JBSblue (9:14:04 PM): because
JBSblue (9:14:07 PM): if you read the topic
JBSblue (9:14:09 PM): I specifcally said
JBSblue (9:14:14 PM): "next person to do this gets banned"
JBSblue (9:14:21 PM): apparently no one learned from zapno
XIDarkLotusXI (9:14:22 PM): to be stupid about the name rules
JBSblue (9:14:26 PM): yes
XIDarkLotusXI (9:14:30 PM): its not like they went and made characters though
XIDarkLotusXI (9:14:36 PM): they joked around about it... in dsay.
JBSblue (9:14:38 PM): they all wouldn't shut up about how I'm too soft and how they're going to make this or that
XIDarkLotusXI (9:15:04 PM): if they want to question you let em but i dont think its grounds for a ban, at least for something to this degree.
JBSblue (9:15:15 PM): don't care
JBSblue (9:15:18 PM): and I didn't lock the topic
JBSblue (9:15:24 PM): I did exactly what I said I would do.
XIDarkLotusXI (9:15:39 PM): i think it wasn't needed but w/e
JBSblue (9:16:32 PM): It got dsay to shut up.
XIDarkLotusXI (9:16:40 PM): but it's dsay...
XIDarkLotusXI (9:16:53 PM): it's not a public channel
JBSblue (9:17:09 PM): I don't care. They were trolling me, I'm the god damn admin, and if they want to play with fire, they're going to get burned.
XIDarkLotusXI (9:17:26 PM): that's not the way to admin dude.
XIDarkLotusXI (9:18:11 PM): that's like the equivalent of if i was admin and black was being an idiot like he was earlier in dsay and me banning him for it.
JBSblue (9:18:34 PM): idc
JBSblue (9:18:57 PM): FFO really needs to learn NOT to troll the admins so much.
JBSblue (9:19:01 PM): And this is the only way
JBSblue (9:19:05 PM): Sure they'll all whine, but oh well
XIDarkLotusXI (9:19:15 PM): they need to learn to not troll at all because it's ***
XIDarkLotusXI (9:19:19 PM): but this shouldnt be the way
JBSblue (9:19:20 PM): They think they can get away with anything.
JBSblue (9:19:25 PM): This is a fine way.
JBSblue (9:19:38 PM): They think they can troll me over what I decided on someone's name and get away with it?
JBSblue (9:19:39 PM): **** that.
XIDarkLotusXI (9:19:40 PM): saying im going to make a female thief named snatch isnt really getting away with anything.
JBSblue (9:19:51 PM): Look, I spelled it out plain and clear
JBSblue (9:19:54 PM): and they tested me
XIDarkLotusXI (9:20:11 PM): all im saying is in reality they didn't do anything.
XIDarkLotusXI (9:20:39 PM): you used to ask me my opinion on stuff you did as admin a lot and i usually agreed with you but not so much this time.
XIDarkLotusXI (9:20:45 PM): a mute at the most would suffice
JBSblue (9:21:16 PM): oh well
JBSblue (9:21:26 PM): I have perfect justification for this.
JBSblue (9:21:33 PM): If Gaku wants to change it he can.
JBSblue (9:21:37 PM): Otherwise it sticks.
XIDarkLotusXI (9:22:09 PM): gaku wouldnt do anything unless you went bonkers like garral did.
JBSblue (9:22:20 PM): Then I guess it sticks.
JBSblue (9:22:24 PM): Gaku's done this before too.
XIDarkLotusXI (9:22:30 PM): it's his game though
JBSblue (9:22:31 PM): He banned Elyk once for the same thing.
JBSblue (9:22:34 PM): Yeah well, like I said.
JBSblue (9:22:37 PM): if he disagrees
JBSblue (9:22:40 PM): he can unban them
XIDarkLotusXI (9:23:01 PM): w/e

There was more but I didn't log it.

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Exophus wrote:

I could sugarcoat my posts for everyone, Lumino, but I'm not like that. Sorry.

If you argument could stand on it's own you wouldn't need to attach insults to your post.

In any event, the log attached is slightly irrelevant. We've already move past that.

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It showed Locke complaining about how people say he's too soft. I think it is quite relevant. He was using that as a main reason as to why he did it in the first place, which is not the way a respectable admin should act.

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Not really, its just one thing I mentioned. That log doesn't make me look bad, it just outlines Exophus's thoughts because he was too lazy to repost them.

Being Exophus, and all.

On a side note, well, yes, it makes me look bad to you, but that's only because you're looking for things to justify yourself, so you're going to pull up things that aren't there or make things seem different than they really are, like you just did.

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what up i'm the only one who even said you had no balls and that "locke is the only admin so he does what he wants (nothing)". the **** oond and LP even get banned for? repercussions because i spoke my mind about how i felt about you? way to lash out erratically at other people bro. if anyone should've been banned here it was me i'll admit it idgaf i just don't even really see why oondi and lp got banned.

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Locke wrote:

On a side note, well, yes, it makes me look bad to you, but that's only because you're looking for things to justify yourself, so you're going to pull up things that aren't there or make things seem different than they really are, like you just did.

Hi I'm irony its good to meet you

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Baram wrote:

what up i'm the only one who even said you had no balls and that "locke is the only admin so he does what he wants (nothing)". the **** oond and LP even get banned for? repercussions because i spoke my mind about how i felt about you? way to lash out erratically at other people bro. if anyone should've been banned here it was me i'll admit it idgaf i just don't even really see why oondi and lp got banned.

How many times have I explained this now, really? At least the other people acknowledge where I explained it and just say I'm wrong instead of pretending I never did.

Also I love how its gone from I'm totally wrong to "well I guess I deserved it but why ban the other guys..."

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You are totally wrong. Have you ever heard the phrase "Take one for the team"? Baram is an asshole a lot but occasionally he'll boil down and be real like this. He has a point though. From what it seems from your responses and mind changing every other post, you would have unbanned them if they had politely asked you to? What the **** is that ****? You don't base a person's innocence on how they express their case. The facts are there, and they show that you should have not jumped the gun and you completely overreacted.

EDIT: Also, I want to know how you informed Gaku of this. In some posts you said you told him up front, and another you said that he read over the thread and simply agreed upon your decision. They don't contradict each other but something tells me if you actually told him up front he would have not even bothered reading this flamestorm.

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Everyone on Vent said they haven't seen Gaku on AIM in like a week... Interesting! :P

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you would have unbanned them if they had politely asked you to? What the **** is that ****? You don't base a person's innocence on how they express their case. The facts are there, and they show that you should have not jumped the gun and you completely overreacted.

I wouldn't have, actually. The ban sticks. I might have said they would have looked better if they could be more mature about it, but I never said I'd actually unban anyone. Also, if you look at real life, appeals and similar things are a lot more likely to be taken seriously if they're civil and mature, so no, its not a sign that I completely overreacted.


EDIT: Also, I want to know how you informed Gaku of this. In some posts you said you told him up front, and another you said that he read over the thread and simply agreed upon your decision. They don't contradict each other but something tells me if you actually told him up front he would have not even bothered reading this flamestorm.

I never said he read the topic. Hes been gone since literally right after I told him about this. I told him on AIM. Why do you think I keep saying "why don't you guys wait and see what Gaku does when he gets back?" Obviously its because he just has my AIM conversation to go on, hasn't read the topic, and I don't think I'm infallible, but I do think I'm correct.

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Cea wrote:

Everyone on Vent said they haven't seen Gaku on AIM in like a week... Interesting! :P

He had some sort of emergency, told me Monday night that he'd be back in two days, I guess it was a bigger issue than he originally thought.

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Nevermind about the Gaku seeing the topic thing, that was Lumino that said this:

"As Aeries said. Gaku runs the game, Gaku appointed Locke, Gaku has SEEN this topic, Gaku has not taken any action to overturn Locke's decision."

haha Lumino...

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Correct. I made an assumption that an eye sore like this would have gotten at least a glance of attention. I was not aware that Gaku was out of town unannounced.

My bad.

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Everyone makes little mistakes Lumino, its okay.

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Like I said in my conversation with Locke(not seen in the log because like I said in my post, I didn't save it all), I don't really think it would be a matter of Gaku agreeing.. I think it'd be a matter of Gaku just not caring about the decision.

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Locke wrote:

you would have unbanned them if they had politely asked you to? What the **** is that ****? You don't base a person's innocence on how they express their case. The facts are there, and they show that you should have not jumped the gun and you completely overreacted.

I wouldn't have, actually. The ban sticks. I might have said they would have looked better if they could be more mature about it, but I never said I'd actually unban anyone. Also, if you look at real life, appeals and similar things are a lot more likely to be taken seriously if they're civil and mature, so no, its not a sign that I completely overreacted.


EDIT: Also, I want to know how you informed Gaku of this. In some posts you said you told him up front, and another you said that he read over the thread and simply agreed upon your decision. They don't contradict each other but something tells me if you actually told him up front he would have not even bothered reading this flamestorm.

I never said he read the topic. Hes been gone since literally right after I told him about this. I told him on AIM. Why do you think I keep saying "why don't you guys wait and see what Gaku does when he gets back?" Obviously its because he just has my AIM conversation to go on, hasn't read the topic, and I don't think I'm infallible, but I do think I'm correct.

Well I woulda unbanned you but then oond and baram went and did it...

Too bad you lost that wonderful moment of clarity of "wow maybe im overreacting and being hasty", eh?

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