Moirai wrote:

there will be more people for longer and you know that for some reason you just dont want experience back in...why

and for a sunday mid day.....13 people is dead we see 18 at our most active hours

No, there's going to be fewer people on that server than this server and you know that. It's going to be buggy and abusive, and people are going to quit after that two week period of nostalgia.

Believe it or not, I actually prefer the allowance system because it doesn't allow spoonfeeding, and there are others who would say that the allowance system is superior.
At this point in FFO's lifetime, 13 people at noon is rather good, compared to previous hostings where we've had the same 4 people sit in domains and recap when the WLC goes up. With experience back in, people will just spoonfeed others, and effort is gone. I know you guys like your SSJ9000lol69dabessss characters and all, but at least with this system you have to work to get them.

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WORK.. FOR.. POWER? WHAT IS THIS BULL****.

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reply to Dr. Letha:

you say that like exp=zero effort its not like every last player was spoonfed get over yourself just because YOU wernt spoonfed then that means YOU gotta be butthurt and try to not fix something that literally everyone except you and po. And yes with allowance you CAN SPOONFEED

Black mage A wants to get high level

Black mage A joins party of his friends (party size 8 players)

Party does water temple

Party finishes water temple

Black mage A is now proffed enough to be Black wizard A

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He meant spoonfeeding as in:

Sai is the strongest rw on server. Sai can solo dragons.

King Blax A Is a level 10 Black Mage. Sai takes King Blax A to Frost Dragons where King Blax A autofollows Sai as he solos.

2 hours later

King Blax A has -10 million EXP, enough to cap out at level 25-30

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Killa wrote:

He meant spoonfeeding as in:

Sai is the strongest rw on server. Sai can solo dragons.

King Blax A Is a level 10 Black Mage. Sai takes King Blax A to Frost Dragons where King Blax A autofollows Sai as he solos.

2 hours later

King Blax A has -10 million EXP, enough to cap out at level 25-30

And this, when you look at it from an outside point of view is any different? Sure its with EXP and not allowance but it is all the same exact concept

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Moirai wrote:

reply to Dr. Letha:

you say that like exp=zero effort its not like every last player was spoonfed get over yourself just because YOU wernt spoonfed then that means YOU gotta be butthurt and try to not fix something that literally everyone except you and po. And yes with allowance you CAN SPOONFEED

Black mage A wants to get high level

Black mage A joins party of his friends (party size 8 players)

Party does water temple

Party finishes water temple

Black mage A is now proffed enough to be Black wizard A

It's cute that you think this has to do with me personally in regards to spoonfeeding, really.

Also false, Po and I aren't the only ones that prefer allowance.

This community is definitely not above spoonfeeding to make their allies super strong in a week, and you know that perfectly well, just like everyone else does. Experience makes that far too easy in comparison to allowance.

Also spoonfeeding with allowance lol

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reply to Dr. Letha:

Why work to be overpowered? What's the point in that? everyone who plays is entitled to be better than everyone else. I don't know how that works or how that's even possible but that's how games are meant to be. Your character's strength should NOT be proportionate to the time invested, that's just not fair on the poor casuals who don't have the skill/time to be able to match the EVIL no lifers.

Indeed, no skill is mastered by gradual progress and effort, everyone that plays FFO should be an awesome over 9000 super saiyan that can do ancients and solo dragons for the best gear, because that is how you have fun, being at the top without trying as hard as the no lifers who obviously don't deserve it.

Besides. No lifers are terrible people. The players we want don't care about the game - or want to spend time mastering it.

/Sarcasm.

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Moirai wrote:

reply to Dr. Letha:

Black mage A wants to get high level

Black mage A joins party of his friends (party size 8 players)

Party does water temple

Party finishes water temple

Black mage A is now proffed enough to be Black wizard A

^^this is spoonfeeding with allowance elf

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Moirai wrote:

Moirai wrote:

reply to Dr. Letha:

Black mage A wants to get high level

Black mage A joins party of his friends (party size 8 players)

Party does water temple

Party finishes water temple

Black mage A is now proffed enough to be Black wizard A

^^this is spoonfeeding with allowance elf

Sounds like training in a party with allowance.

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Moirai wrote:

Moirai wrote:

reply to Dr. Letha:

Black mage A wants to get high level

Black mage A joins party of his friends (party size 8 players)

Party does water temple

Party finishes water temple

Black mage A is now proffed enough to be Black wizard A

^^this is spoonfeeding with allowance elf

False, because Black mage A can't directly get profs based off of what his party does (i.e. get experience for just sitting there with his thumb up his ass l:B ).

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Nerserus2 wrote:

reply to Dr. Letha:

Why work to be overpowered? What's the point in that? everyone who plays is entitled to be better than everyone else. I don't know how that works or how that's even possible but that's how games are meant to be. Your character's strength should NOT be proportionate to the time invested, that's just not fair on the poor casuals who don't have the skill/time to be able to match the EVIL no lifers.

Indeed, no skill is mastered by gradual progress and effort, everyone that plays FFO should be an awesome over 9000 super saiyan that can do ancients and solo dragons for the best gear, because that is how you have fun, being at the top without trying as hard as the no lifers who obviously don't deserve it.

Besides. No lifers are terrible people. The players we want don't care about the game - or want to spend time mastering it.

/Sarcasm.

no lifers are terrible people when they do nothing all day but sit on there ass and pk nubie players and laugh about it with themselves and no irl friends or girlfriend, yah

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Moirai wrote:

Nerserus2 wrote:

reply to Dr. Letha:

Why work to be overpowered? What's the point in that? everyone who plays is entitled to be better than everyone else. I don't know how that works or how that's even possible but that's how games are meant to be. Your character's strength should NOT be proportionate to the time invested, that's just not fair on the poor casuals who don't have the skill/time to be able to match the EVIL no lifers.

Indeed, no skill is mastered by gradual progress and effort, everyone that plays FFO should be an awesome over 9000 super saiyan that can do ancients and solo dragons for the best gear, because that is how you have fun, being at the top without trying as hard as the no lifers who obviously don't deserve it.

Besides. No lifers are terrible people. The players we want don't care about the game - or want to spend time mastering it.

/Sarcasm.

no lifers are terrible people when they do nothing all day but sit on there ass and pk nubie players and laugh about it with themselves and no irl friends or girlfriend, yah

^doesn't understand sarcasm

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reply to Dr. Letha:

your missing the point kid. Who cares its a game....in 10 years this little 2-D pixel game will affect NO ONE that currently plays it.....it could even be 2 years even 1 year even 1 ****ing day your whole life can change and FFO could go bye bye. Just let people enjoy what they want and not what YOU think is better

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Moirai wrote:

Nerserus2 wrote:

reply to Dr. Letha:

Why work to be overpowered? What's the point in that? everyone who plays is entitled to be better than everyone else. I don't know how that works or how that's even possible but that's how games are meant to be. Your character's strength should NOT be proportionate to the time invested, that's just not fair on the poor casuals who don't have the skill/time to be able to match the EVIL no lifers.

Indeed, no skill is mastered by gradual progress and effort, everyone that plays FFO should be an awesome over 9000 super saiyan that can do ancients and solo dragons for the best gear, because that is how you have fun, being at the top without trying as hard as the no lifers who obviously don't deserve it.

Besides. No lifers are terrible people. The players we want don't care about the game - or want to spend time mastering it.

/Sarcasm.

no lifers are terrible people when they do nothing all day but sit on there ass and pk nubie players and laugh about it with themselves and no irl friends or girlfriend, yah

Now that's funny because like thirty minutes before you posted that you came to GSH killed a level 15 fighter repeatedly and ran away.

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Current Players:
Reaver
Boom (Guide)
White Wizard
Red Wizard
Letha (Guide)
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Because this is active

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Moirai wrote:

reply to Dr. Letha:

your missing the point kid. Who cares its a game....in 10 years this little 2-D pixel game will affect NO ONE that currently plays it.....it could even be 2 years even 1 year even 1 ****ing day your whole life can change and FFO could go bye bye. Just let people enjoy what they want and not what YOU think is better

You're missing the point, stoner kid. The "who cares its a game" rebuttal is pretty low when you consider that everyone here has spent enough time on this game to think that their opinion matters, as shown by like, everyone who has posted in every topic made in the last 24 hours. I'm all for people enjoying the game, but not when effort isn't a requirement to have fun. No game that bypasses effort is successful. Ever.

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reply to Nerserus2:

i knew that fighter LOL

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Moirai wrote:

reply to Dr. Letha:

your missing the point kid. Who cares its a game....in 10 years this little 2-D pixel game will affect NO ONE that currently plays it.....it could even be 2 years even 1 year even 1 ****ing day your whole life can change and FFO could go bye bye. Just let people enjoy what they want and not what YOU think is better

Read that post, and take your own advice.

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reply to Iris:

Just after a reboot sup. Cute that you would try that Vurtex ;)

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Dr. Letha wrote:

Moirai wrote:

reply to Dr. Letha:

your missing the point kid. Who cares its a game....in 10 years this little 2-D pixel game will affect NO ONE that currently plays it.....it could even be 2 years even 1 year even 1 ****ing day your whole life can change and FFO could go bye bye. Just let people enjoy what they want and not what YOU think is better

You're missing the point, stoner kid. The "who cares its a game" rebuttal is pretty low when you consider that everyone here has spent enough time on this game to think that their opinion matters, as shown by like, everyone who has posted in every topic made in the last 24 hours. I'm all for people enjoying the game, but not when effort isn't a requirement to have fun. No game that bypasses effort is successful. Ever.

so exp= literally zero effort for those who dont get spoonfed? For those who actually grind and try for there work

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