PcP wrote:

At this point I believe ace's and shatter's bans should not only be lifted, but complaints to the admin team by tyrael should be disregarded. I know me and reap got banned for killing tyrael twice in like 2 hours, and -somehow- tyrael produced screenshots "proving" he was spamkilled.

At any rate, even if tyrael isn't lying -again-, shatter should at least be unbanned since three times within an hour isnt spamkilling

Ya because screen shots with date and time stamps and in game releavance should be disregarded and a player should be much more trusted than them right? your saying we shouldignore SS's and go off the word of players?

im sorry this logis seems very bad to me but ill let the admins judge that. As for you killing me and getting banned i love how you say "killed him twice in like 2 hours" you dont even know how many times you killed me in how long so basically your saying you were just running around pking people not caring how many kills in how long of time.

and as for your ignorance of saying "all tyraels comments to the admins should be ignored" shows and proves your biased enough against me to say none of my complaints and regards should be bothered with as if im not a player of this game. gj.

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reply to Huckey168:

Of course he doesn't remember that like around a week or two ago. But I can guarentee you that when i run around argo i count the kills done by everyone in my party. We made sure not to break 3 for that hour.

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Po wrote:

not only shud the bans be lifted, but the entire admin team should be re-thought, and dean is a dev or w/e but he shudnt have admin status for ffo, considering from what i hear he has a track record of threatening to stop dev work
showing his nuts on the forums, and just being a total troll and flamer, he also lets sides of a war cloud his judgement, and i dont care what the sides say, i truly believe that he does

well this is way too big of an issue to be discussed in this thread so i suggest youmake another. as for the bans they are valid and as i said i doubt will be removed as this is a repeat offense for both players.

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Well tyrael, I have a general reputation as not being a ****head and being honest with my charges, anyone can produce fake screenshots, I'm pretty good at it myself. Go ahead and ask anyone from ANY adminship if I've ever lied to get out of trouble, the answer would be no. I've been convicted of spamkilling before, but, when the case was legit (ie, not yours), i confessed, and when they went to ban me, I ACCEPTED MY BAN, because I had done wrong.

Now, you, tyrael, have a reputation as a ****ty person in GENERAL, in the case of tyrael vs me, yes, word of mouth would have been more than adequate.

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When your ss's are bull**** and more than 2 players are saying so, yeah they should prolly be thrown out the window tyrael. It is obvious that you just whine to dean when you have an issue and regardless of what really happened he'll do what you want. This isn't the first time it has happened. Also the whole "he prayed for him" thing is so far beyond being an idiot it's not even cool. Curing and praying are two completely different things broski, i'm sure you will try to bring up little bs points about it but the truth is your wrong. Also I agree that the admins/rules should be reviewed or at the very least they should have to post the ss's and make a statement about the ban. Considering Dean won't do any of this and instead just flames people thinking hes the king tends to make us question if he should even be an admin.

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Are these permanent bans?

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Nope a week, because this is my 2nd "offense". The first time I was banned twice as long as reap and iwa for no real reason. I think it's because dean has this deep hate for me which is another reason he shouldn't be admin. He takes personal issues into his admining.

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Shane for admin.

Better than the rest.

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I was totally serious about being admin by the way.

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make a seperate topic about it, see if the community wants it as well

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gib admin please

Anyway, it's just one week, FFO is not going to explode, i think.

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Your missing the point Bob. Dean shouldn't be admin if this is how he goes about it, and Shatter shouldn't be banned on top of that. Its the principle of the whole thing.

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reply to Pkftw:

Darlute is an admin and he rarely does ****, he stays away from FFO more then dean, i don't see anyone talking **** about him. If Shatter helped on the pks, even if not the 4th, he should be banned.

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Uncle Bob wrote:

reply to Pkftw:

Darlute is an admin and he rarely does ****, he stays away from FFO more then dean, i don't see anyone talking **** about him. If Shatter helped on the pks, even if not the 4th, he should be banned.

Exactly darlute doesn't hop on ffo when he hears someone crying to just toss a ban around. Also I explained this earlier but maybe you were too lazy to read it all. If someone from my party gets a pk, then goes idle staying in my party, and I proceed to kill that person another 3 times how are they at fault? They are not at fault thats the answer broski. This is to point out the flaws in the rules and some of our logic.

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You all seem pretty picky about semantics.

Why are the admins acting independent of each other? Rather than everyone trying to play with words for their benefit shouldn't the admins just discuss the evidence and punish based on a group decision? Or is that not the point of a TEAM of admins?



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DeshTheWraith wrote:

You all seem pretty picky about semantics.

Why are the admins acting independent of each other? Rather than everyone trying to play with words for their benefit shouldn't the admins just discuss the evidence and punish based on a group decision? Or is that not the point of a TEAM of admins?

but you forget apparently dean can do w/e the **** he wants

and then threaten to stop dev work when admin position is threatened

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reply to Pkftw:

You shouldn't kill that dude another three times, since you alredy knew that he died once, and the guy that got the first kill helped too.

Also, FFO is a privilege, not a right.

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reply to Po:

I'm not speaking on the actions of admins based on hear say, I haven't been around and I'm not gonna believe 1 person over the other.

I'm just a little confused as to the point of multiple admins if apparently one is acting on his own from an unassailable position. Either his fellow admins should've reviewed the case (since he obviously has vested interests, and because we're all human can't really be 100% unbiased) and supported his decision with plenty of reasoning. Or they decide he jumped the gun and overturn the decision.

But there shouldn't be 1 person banning his enemies and threads whining about it.

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yes i know what you mean however, that is exactly how it is right now, and the main, and really only real culprit of this is dean

let him continue dev work idc, but dont give such a biased troll admin over people, its the same reason i wouldnt accept admin is because someone would piss me off and i'd ban them next possible chance

trolls and flamers CANNOT be proper admins over a game, it just wont work

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reply to Uncle Bob:

Regardless of what I should and should not do, my consequences shouldn't be pushed on to the next person simply because I know them, or i'm in the party. Also yea Desh, Dean has been doing w/e he wants without posting about it or having any real consequence it's sad and all but I don't see it getting changed anytime soon.

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