reply to Sangue cavaliere:

Because we never seen those items?

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Fenrir Greybob wrote:

reply to Sangue cavaliere:

Because we never seen those items?

and it all boils down to, prove it. if an admin abuses her powers, how can we trust she didnt give away the items. im not saying she did. im just stating another perspective. im done with this topic. peace

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reply to Sangue cavaliere:

You should be proving your points, then.

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The way I see it, both of them were wrong.

I think it's pretty obvious can we not trust people in general with the ability to summon monsters that drop items, gold, and a **** load of experience. There's always going to be that speculation. Unless there was some magical method of tracking where items came from and where they went, I think events catered by spawned god monsters are just stupid. It's not helping bring new players in, because they will want in on this free experience as well and only the "in crowd" ever gets to see those monsters.

Spawned monsters should NOT benefit anyone in any way, but that's just my opinion. And if they do there should be some sort of log in order to track who does it and when. (if there isn't already, I don't know). But let's be realistic. A lot of people say they want to help bring in new players but end up slaughtering any and every fresh character off Newbie Isle. Hypocrisy, much? Not pointing fingers but you know who you are.

As for Deylin, if you want to help new players with events, why not try something else? Have them team up to defeat a difficult monster, and if they win offer to help train them or something. Or show them some of your nifty knowledge or tricks, we all have tons of them. You don't have to spoonfeed or hand them an item worth 100k to convince them to stay, showing them you actually want them to stay is a LOT more helpful. I wouldn't even look twice at a game if I was immediately handed a giant bag of cash and didn't even hear much from them again.

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Since pugs are being used for event items and gold, how come i haven't seen one pug item handed out at events? As for someone abusing GM to ruin other people's game play, how does robbing PC houses via abuse of GM warp and conceal not ruin another person's game play? You robbed the crap out of me and I'm not crying for a rollback. As for winning domains the "legit" way im pretty sure everyone who was around remembers your "rise to power" started one day when no one was on to defend domains.

I don't support a rollback. I'll stay robbed and let tristram be a giant hole in the floor, not like it matters anyway, since if there is a rollback I'll be happy to set tristram on fire myself. I've been nothing but nice to almost everyone on this server (except smith but he's smith), and keep getting shafted. I'll be waiting for you when your ban is up if ever, Deylin, and if there is a rollback, I'll see you this weekend ;)


EDIT: oh and as for you not abusing icon checker i hurd someone was crashing people's dreamseeker using icon checker to try to get away with looting a pc house via gm warp and conceal, I don't know who did it but I'm just gonna take a safe guess and assume it was anyone who had gm and icon checker and was online at the time.

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I never added in an icon, I left them all deleted when Kikuri deleted them. The only icons that are in the game currently that were recently uploaded are Gaku's and Hecate's when we were testing on the icon bug. Sorry if that made you crash but it's a test and Gaku never said to remove the icons so I assumed it'd be fine to leave them in.

Did I steal from Shyron? Yes. But I did it the right way. It's quite easy when there's an away Cea, and the guards are stuck behind a bank and other buildings, and a whole bunch more things that the domain leader himself did wrong.

As for events for newbies, I was never planning on giving them out epic gear and more than 100K for their events. That's just stupid. And yes, that was one of the events I had in my head for them, which included REAL RP instead of bull****tery where Jeebs just spawns things on people.

When Tristram was finally taken, the only gold I received was 2.9mil. As I said before, I had 2.5mil of my own gold in the bank that I gained myself. That's 400k that I had ever gotten from the spawns that I have done. I only did one pug and one bahamut that dropped any gold/experience/items because I had recently figured out how to make them drop things with the help of Smith.

As for War, I would only want a rollback if everyone in this predicament was given a second chance. Re-instate my Guide, Icon Checker, GM, and Town. Let Jeebs go for the crimes he has committed as well.

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By the way, I removed all the icon checkers not just you.




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reply to Jeebs:

ok for once i acctually agree with iwam :P
i think that noone should really be ifringed by the actions of one admin, all us players what wern't really affected by this should not have to suffer through a rollback. yes deylin all of my gear degraded from grand to mediocre from tanking pugs but i wont complain because while this ****... pardon my french.. was going on other players were training and fighting monsters mabye even doing quests. i highly doubt that they would want to go back to a previous setting when they may or may not even have their characters... i just dont think it woule be fair to everyone... dey if you want trist back then fine.. just rebuild it. it didnt take you that long before even after you completely deconstructed it. so please all i ask for is no rollback. also if you lost anything just kil frost dragons etc its just not fair to others.

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p.s why isnt my group XF anymore :o

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Jeebs wrote:

By the way, I removed all the icon checkers not just you.

Wasn't this an abuse of power too? Why would you remove all icon checker status from the people who had them when they didn't do anything wrong with icon checker? That was really silly of you.



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Hecate wrote:

reply to Jeebs:

ok for once i acctually agree with iwam :P
i think that noone should really be ifringed by the actions of one admin, all us players what wern't really affected by this should not have to suffer through a rollback. yes deylin all of my gear degraded from grand to mediocre from tanking pugs but i wont complain because while this ****... pardon my french.. was going on other players were training and fighting monsters mabye even doing quests. i highly doubt that they would want to go back to a previous setting when they may or may not even have their characters... i just dont think it woule be fair to everyone... dey if you want trist back then fine.. just rebuild it. it didnt take you that long before even after you completely deconstructed it. so please all i ask for is no rollback. also if you lost anything just kil frost dragons etc its just not fair to others.

The only people on at the time were me, you, Jules, Gale, Bob, Zeno, Cea, Gojira/Rawr/Locke the Ninja, Adrindo, and Jeebs. Me, you, Jules, Gale, Bob, Jeebs, and Gojira were all involved in this poor showmanship from an Admin/GM. Adrindo wanted to come to the pugs but once we told him what was going on in dsay he didn't come. Pretty sure he was just sitting in Diadel and just watching what was happening. Same with Gene and Cea, they weren't doing anything productive. Cea was on dsay saying that he was mad about what Jeebs was doing and Gene was just watching the whole time as well.

I do not need a rollback to get my town back yes you are correct. If a roll back does not happen I would like to be unbanned, and get my guide, icon checker, and GM back on all keys that those positions had been appointed to.

I lost more than what anyone else has. A rollback would be completely suitable. I lost 1mil+ in gold, hard work from building the domain, and time from resource gathering and etc when I could have been doing something else in my life.

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Dea wrote:

Hecate wrote:

reply to Jeebs:

ok for once i acctually agree with iwam :P
i think that noone should really be ifringed by the actions of one admin, all us players what wern't really affected by this should not have to suffer through a rollback. yes deylin all of my gear degraded from grand to mediocre from tanking pugs but i wont complain because while this ****... pardon my french.. was going on other players were training and fighting monsters mabye even doing quests. i highly doubt that they would want to go back to a previous setting when they may or may not even have their characters... i just dont think it woule be fair to everyone... dey if you want trist back then fine.. just rebuild it. it didnt take you that long before even after you completely deconstructed it. so please all i ask for is no rollback. also if you lost anything just kil frost dragons etc its just not fair to others.

The only people on at the time were me, you, Jules, Gale, Bob, Zeno, Cea, Gojira/Rawr/Locke the Ninja, Adrindo, and Jeebs. Me, you, Jules, Gale, Bob, Jeebs, and Gojira were all involved in this poor showmanship from an Admin/GM. Adrindo wanted to come to the pugs but once we told him what was going on in dsay he didn't come. Pretty sure he was just sitting in Diadel and just watching what was happening. Same with Gene and Cea, they weren't doing anything productive. Cea was on dsay saying that he was mad about what Jeebs was doing and Gene was just watching the whole time as well.

I do not need a rollback to get my town back yes you are correct. If a roll back does not happen I would like to be unbanned, and get my guide, icon checker, and GM back on all keys that those positions had been appointed to.

I lost more than what anyone else has. A rollback would be completely suitable. I lost 1mil+ in gold, hard work from building the domain, and time from resource gathering and etc when I could have been doing something else in my life.

This may be true that we were the only ones online... But rollbacks usually go back to the last reboot which would have been well over a week ago..... It will affect those that wernt involved as I said before.

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White Mage says: I died alot.
White Mage says: Remember.
xxxxx says: Same.
White Mage says: I heard how you died.
xxxxx says: My guardian frog leggings went poof.
White Mage says: After gold...
xxxxx says: Yep.
xxxxx says: He kicked me.
White Mage says: I was like...
xxxxx says: From the game after spawning **** on me.
White Mage says: Uh.
White Mage says: And then shatter got 700k from killing you.
xxxxx says: Smh....
White Mage says: And him and maoi upgraded their ****...
xxxxx says: Smh...

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Hecate wrote:

Dea wrote:

Hecate wrote:

reply to Jeebs:

ok for once i acctually agree with iwam :P
i think that noone should really be ifringed by the actions of one admin, all us players what wern't really affected by this should not have to suffer through a rollback. yes deylin all of my gear degraded from grand to mediocre from tanking pugs but i wont complain because while this ****... pardon my french.. was going on other players were training and fighting monsters mabye even doing quests. i highly doubt that they would want to go back to a previous setting when they may or may not even have their characters... i just dont think it woule be fair to everyone... dey if you want trist back then fine.. just rebuild it. it didnt take you that long before even after you completely deconstructed it. so please all i ask for is no rollback. also if you lost anything just kil frost dragons etc its just not fair to others.

The only people on at the time were me, you, Jules, Gale, Bob, Zeno, Cea, Gojira/Rawr/Locke the Ninja, Adrindo, and Jeebs. Me, you, Jules, Gale, Bob, Jeebs, and Gojira were all involved in this poor showmanship from an Admin/GM. Adrindo wanted to come to the pugs but once we told him what was going on in dsay he didn't come. Pretty sure he was just sitting in Diadel and just watching what was happening. Same with Gene and Cea, they weren't doing anything productive. Cea was on dsay saying that he was mad about what Jeebs was doing and Gene was just watching the whole time as well.

I do not need a rollback to get my town back yes you are correct. If a roll back does not happen I would like to be unbanned, and get my guide, icon checker, and GM back on all keys that those positions had been appointed to.

I lost more than what anyone else has. A rollback would be completely suitable. I lost 1mil+ in gold, hard work from building the domain, and time from resource gathering and etc when I could have been doing something else in my life.

This may be true that we were the only ones online... But rollbacks usually go back to the last reboot which would have been well over a week ago..... It will affect those that wernt involved as I said before.

If this is true that rollbacks are from the last reboot then I do not want one. Me and my friends alone I know have put tons of work into their characters within the past week. This is probably true for others as well and as such I would not want people to be punished to this extent.

If this is the case: I propose no roll back. Return GM, PC Icon Checker, and Guide status to all my keys. Let me regain my 700k with mobs and Garland/Raid runs. Let this issue go and give everyone involved a chance to re-cooperate and prove themselves right. I can rebuild my town if I feel like it with help of my friends.

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So marcus removes an icon for ****s and giggles and eats a perma ban, Deylin gets insane number of experience, resources, etc and is getting a temporary ban? Good job guys let's be pretty hypocritical some more. Nothing ever changes eh?
To be honest I agree with Jeebs although the complete the destruction may have been a bit too much but hey dey you abused domain mechanics so you can get your easy kills for "gold and items for future events" haha. Any of the admins who knows me damn well knows that I'm the farthest thing from nice when it comes to punishment hell if I had my way all of you would think twice before shouting "spam kill" but that's besides the point.
I mean yeah sure a rollback would be nice, would be great and would be nothing more than a slap on the hand to said offenders. Second chances? haha that's a phrase? HAHAHAHA EVERYONE ON FFO HAS HAD MULTIPLE CHANCES.
What more proof do you guys need that there's really only a slim few amount of people capable of handling positions of GM. Despite what Jeebs did to you Deylin, he's never done what you were doing. WTB one GM or no GM pleaseeee
And Jeebs stop being incredibly hasty with your actions, why don't you discuss with other admins before doing such a thing like that...?

Also, why has your story about robbing from Shyron changed like 4 different times? Is it really hard to confess you abused GM more than Kaji could ever?

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Obv marcus is black and we dont want his kind here

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Darlute wrote:

So marcus removes an icon for ****s and giggles and eats a perma ban, Deylin gets insane number of experience, resources, etc and is getting a temporary ban? Good job guys let's be pretty hypocritical some more. Nothing ever changes eh?
To be honest I agree with Jeebs although the complete the destruction may have been a bit too much but hey dey you abused domain mechanics so you can get your easy kills for "gold and items for future events" haha. Any of the admins who knows me damn well knows that I'm the farthest thing from nice when it comes to punishment hell if I had my way all of you would think twice before shouting "spam kill" but that's besides the point.
I mean yeah sure a rollback would be nice, would be great and would be nothing more than a slap on the hand to said offenders. Second chances? haha that's a phrase? HAHAHAHA EVERYONE ON FFO HAS HAD MULTIPLE CHANCES.
What more proof do you guys need that there's really only a slim few amount of people capable of handling positions of GM. Despite what Jeebs did to you Deylin, he's never done what you were doing. WTB one GM or no GM pleaseeee
And Jeebs stop being incredibly hasty with your actions, why don't you discuss with other admins before doing such a thing like that...?

Also, why has your story about robbing from Shyron changed like 4 different times? Is it really hard to confess you abused GM more than Kaji could ever?

Marcus removed icons from the game because the admins lack of action to remove the PC Icon Checker status from his keys. Which is why when Dean quoted that Jeebs thing he slashed out Marcus' name. Marcus claims he did it to prove a point to the admin team. Icons were permanently lost from players and he abused his status to cause harm to others.

My story about Shyron has never changed. Me and Jules stole from Shyron. It was easy to, because there was no one on, Jules had impunity, and the guards were all stuck behind buildings. As for other things I'm not willing to disclose because that's mine and Jules' secret about what we do ;))

"Despite what Jeebs did to you Deylin, he's never done what you were doing."

Jeebs committed worst crimes than what I am being accused of. As stated, Magnus and Jeebs have BOTH spawned mobs for gold and items. It's been seen, and even though I have no proof of it because it doesn't matter that much to me because I know they were probably doing it for good reasons, I wasn't going to screen shot it and be like LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING THEY'RE GETTING BETTER ITEMS AND GOLD THAN ME!


ETA: I actually HELPED Magnus get all the gold and pretty items you guys get from events because of Tristram.

The gold acquired from these monsters is split at the ends of events. Magnus has dropped up to 200k at the end of his events. Where do you think he got it from? No one seems to complain about it then.

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reply to Dea:

This doesn't explain why smith is a checker... he sucks all of his icons suck and I have been iconing waaay longer then he has been around.

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Hecate wrote:

reply to Dea:

This doesn't explain why smith is a checker... he sucks all of his icons suck and I have been iconing waaay longer then he has been around.

...This has to deal with...what?

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Correction marcus removed those icon's because he made nearly all of them from what I recall and every single one of you ***'s started harassing him. How about you just quit crying and do what we do? Suck it up, be a big girl for once in your god forsaken life.

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