Legendary Blax wrote:

Morrigan Ravensong wrote:

But that's another topic. We're trying to balance this out, actually pk people, not fight armies and soliders/rangers/mages/guards. We're trying to fight ACTUAL players. It's boring and stupid because you all hide behind armies because you aren't permanent. outlawed at all domains. So for us to actually capture a domain, we gotta come to boundaries and agreements.

You basically just admitted to what me and everybody else has been saying, thank you for that. You just want to spam PK the players in an attempt to make everybody quit and are mad because you are so unwanted in FFO that you are outlawed in all domains and can not only not join any but can't easily kill people and achieve your goal. GG.

Tell me, refresh my memory. What is FFO to you guys? I thought Final Fantasy Online was.....PVP anywhere, anytime. FFO like NEVER before. FFO where good things can go bad real quick. This isn't a chat game. They closed all those on Byond. This isn't 'sit in a domain behind guards/army talk **** and brag about how you can't get killed because you don't have to train behind army etc'. What I'm saying is, YEA I want to fight, YEA I want to show off my training use, YEA I want to burn domains and YEA I want to enjoy FFO like everyone else.

THIS IS NOT MAPLE STORY! If you do not like fighting people, GET off THIS game!

I'm tired of responding to your nonsense. It's getting irritating.

i understand pvp straight up man...but what you guys do is make people want to quit you basically claim argo as your own place not the town the entire place you have calmed down and for that i thank you but the rest of blaxco still kills anyone in argo on sight not to mention you guys usually scry and hunt down any training parties

and the rest of blaxco isnt even smith....who straight up without question or anything charges anyone he see's in argo ill even quote him here "i see new people in argo should i be nice no i pk" even new charecters off the island who could be new players as slim as it may be he instantly charges them

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i understand pvp straight up man...but what you guys do is make people want to quit you basically claim argo as your own place not the town the entire place you have calmed down and for that i thank you but the rest of blaxco still kills anyone in argo on sight not to mention you guys usually scry and hunt down any training parties

Exactly, and those things are not PvP, its greifing. PvP imply's a mutually accepted battle between two people or two groups. What Blaxco does is PK and force people to fight. Which is unhealthy and generally banable on any credible online game, yes counting those with PvP.

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i mean try only being able to kill army with back stab and spamming citizen over and over to kill the army when army had (like deylin said)100k of health per unit not to mention if they had full gaurds...sankora was untakable for months cause the owner never played he just logged on to affk and troll everyone who ever wanted sankora so he could keep it for all of the hosting

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Ravinus wrote:

My opinion is, a nice nerf to army, or a lil nerf to army and a bigger siege.

this isnt an opinion its a copy of what black and adrindo said and adrindo i know damn well you're only saying this to support blaxco. Armies are nowhere near what they use to be nobody played the wipe that gaku added allowance cea, gale, relleth, masha, kikuri, enigma, shatter, po, and myself did that was the player base changing seige to the way it was is completley flawed only because once the hosting dies down unless more then 20 people still play 20 people online is near impossible. And more then likley 20 people online once the hosting dies down is never the case. Ever

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I suggest we buff the armies back to how they were a year ago when RNCBP was trying to take domains. When we were trying to take the domains the prof cap was just enough for tier 3s and the level cap was 35.


Now with everything being so much higher, I think the armies back then are much more suitable for this hosting. :)

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Goddess wrote:

I suggest we buff the armies back to how they were a year ago when RNCBP was trying to take domains. When we were trying to take the domains the prof cap was just enough for tier 3s and the level cap was 35.


Now with everything being so much higher, I think the armies back then are much more suitable for this hosting. :)

or change it back to how it was in the post i mentioned so blaxco can really understand the meaning of "over powered armies"

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ok black i have some info for you my level 48 bw if i actually tried can solo a full army i have one t3 it's like level 17 and still breaks 200 to army units ON PALISADES

you're simply just weak and need to get better get over your butthurt already

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All these "Blkax you weak, Blax you suck, Blax you are hated at this game, you brag about ancients but cry about army wwaaawwwaaaahhhhwaahhh" Prove me wrong.


Today, tonight, whenever. Give Gaku, oh, I'm sorry, Twilight domain of IGH and try to get it back. I would like to see. Like show me that army is weak and you can break that much amount of damage.

Anything is easier said then done. What's that ol saying? You can talk the talk, but walk the walk? Do the walking part.

Let's see if you can take the domain with Twilight behind the army while it's completely blocked off with no gates and all stone walls.

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Yes because we want to make Relleth, or anyone else that owns a domain at the moment, lose as much money as possible so you can come and kill the level one guard after we are finished so you can have IGH to yourself to spam dragons all day.


No thanks.


Oh and we took Giant's Helm already when it had army and guards so yeah. We walked the walk already.

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Goddess wrote:

Oh and we took Giant's Helm already when it had army and guards so yeah. We walked the walk already.

This

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Just a thing that no one really has touched on, (that I've noticed) The defenders are supposed to have the advantage of having a domain and an army at their beck and call anyway.

before I post anything else in this post, I dont hate blax co or w/e the sides are, and I don't really play that much, but I still havea good understanding of how things work, or should work consider I spent much of my time last year destroying peoples homes. And we ddnt even do it from argo, we had just as much to risk as anyone else did.

In regards to siege time, I think like an hour increase at maximum would be great, I always have felt that two hours was too short, and five was way to much. I think three would be a great happy medium.

Secondly wars weren't meant to be won in 15 minutes, Like Noly said it took us around a week at one point to take IGH. After spending a week siegieng that domain, finally claiming victory felt ****ing amazing. It was always disappointing when it took us less time to take anything. We used to plan, strategize stake out weak points, try to find anything we could use to an advantage to exploit.

In my memory, the only thing we really *****ed about (as far as I can recall cuz there was a lot of *****ing) was the palisade update where it made it SUPER hard to take a domain because the army became virtually indestructible.

Third, as I said, The defenders should always have home turf advantage. Of course an npc army isn't going to destroy an invasion force (unless the invasion force doesnt know what they're doing/is uncoordinated/makes a mistake) There are many nights I recall sitting behind tristrams gates, Largely outnumbered, thankful that we had that army or else it would have been a for sure loss. Then it was a matter of time waiting for the enemy to slip up/run out of resources so we could kill them all. I firmly believe that armies are fine the way that they are. Had the amount of players we had, not been backing that army up, we would have lost for sure.

If you're having trouble sieging a domain, you should figure something else out. Instead of just complain, nerf nerf nerf. And thats to both sides, Cuz I've been on both sides.

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Ok, I agree. The palisades are the only reason Army is soo ****ing good. I say fix the palisades. That'll help extreme.

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I still think the palisades are fin personaly. Before the update the only thing palisades would do was get in the way and not really protect anything. Now they have a purpose and actually give the defenders an advantage, like they should have to begin with. Its just a challenge you need to work through.

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Black I've seen your invasion forces and the problem really isn't with the armies. It's rather the fact your invasion forces are insufficient. Not enough people to begin with and then your whole group wants to be black wizards. Or red wizards. That's NOT how you take a domain. And most of your wizards aren't very skilled. Nerfing armies based on what you keep attacking domains with would be a huge mistake. As properly organized force would be able to sweep through all the domains in an hour and a half without restocking till they reached Irendi Castle.

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Magnus:

Just a thing that no one really has touched on, (that I've noticed) The defenders are supposed to have the advantage of having a domain and an army at their beck and call anyway.

before I post anything else in this post, I dont hate blax co or w/e the sides are, and I don't really play that much, but I still havea good understanding of how things work, or should work consider I spent much of my time last year destroying peoples homes. And we ddnt even do it from argo, we had just as much to risk as anyone else did.

In regards to siege time, I think like an hour increase at maximum would be great, I always have felt that two hours was too short, and five was way to much. I think three would be a great happy medium.

Secondly wars weren't meant to be won in 15 minutes, Like Noly said it took us around a week at one point to take IGH. After spending a week siegieng that domain, finally claiming victory felt ****ing amazing. It was always disappointing when it took us less time to take anything. We used to plan, strategize stake out weak points, try to find anything we could use to an advantage to exploit.

In my memory, the only thing we really *****ed about (as far as I can recall cuz there was a lot of *****ing) was the palisade update where it made it SUPER hard to take a domain because the army became virtually indestructible.

Third, as I said, The defenders should always have home turf advantage. Of course an npc army isn't going to destroy an invasion force (unless the invasion force doesnt know what they're doing/is uncoordinated/makes a mistake) There are many nights I recall sitting behind tristrams gates, Largely outnumbered, thankful that we had that army or else it would have been a for sure loss. Then it was a matter of time waiting for the enemy to slip up/run out of resources so we could kill them all. I firmly believe that armies are fine the way that they are. Had the amount of players we had, not been backing that army up, we would have lost for sure.

If you're having trouble sieging a domain, you should figure something else out. Instead of just complain, nerf nerf nerf. And thats to both sides, Cuz I've been on both sides.

I still think the palisades are fin personaly. Before the update the only thing palisades would do was get in the way and not really protect anything. Now they have a purpose and actually give the defenders an advantage, like they should have to begin with. Its just a challenge you need to work through.

Desh:

Black I've seen your invasion forces and the problem really isn't with the armies. It's rather the fact your invasion forces are insufficient. Not enough people to begin with and then your whole group wants to be black wizards. Or red wizards. That's NOT how you take a domain. And most of your wizards aren't very skilled. Nerfing armies based on what you keep attacking domains with would be a huge mistake. As properly organized force would be able to sweep through all the domains in an hour and a half without restocking till they reached Irendi Castle.

^ That is well said. -claps- (No sarcasm intended)

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Legendary Blax wrote:

All these "Blkax you weak, Blax you suck, Blax you are hated at this game, you brag about ancients but cry about army wwaaawwwaaaahhhhwaahhh" Prove me wrong.


Today, tonight, whenever. Give Gaku, oh, I'm sorry, Twilight domain of IGH and try to get it back. I would like to see. Like show me that army is weak and you can break that much amount of damage.

Anything is easier said then done. What's that ol saying? You can talk the talk, but walk the walk? Do the walking part.

Let's see if you can take the domain with Twilight behind the army while it's completely blocked off with no gates and all stone walls.

two things one i don't have a computer that's why i'm level 48
two relleth was standing next to me as i did it i got bored after getting lit 3 and tested it on his army was doing 150 on edge and 250+ in middle


oh there's a third thing i'm not gonna nuke igh for two reasons

one i ****ing love igh

two if twilight had lord of it that'd be breaking our friendship even if it's to prove u wrong

my gear consists of stuff lower than sorcerer
my staff is a masterwork chronos staff of the feather
seriously get over it
it took you fifteen minutes to take a domain
siege is two hours long
why you so butthurt

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