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Army., We all kno where i'm going wit dis.
DeshTheWraith 9:59 AM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)

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I actually agree. I'd be interested in a 6-10 siege.

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Magnus Sforzando 10:17 AM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)

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We had a long siege before, It wasn't fun, at least not for us, most of the time I Wanted to go to bed when it lasted till one in the morning. Trust me, you wont be enjoying it when you have to defend your domain from the entire server for 5+ plus hours.

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Legendary Blax 10:22 AM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)
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reply to Magnus Sforzando:

Other people have different features. That's the whole point of having a domain, taking the responsibility of defending what you take pride in and that you built up.


The whole aspect of taking a domain is to what? Build up, protect and cherish with all your heart. Make it so that people can attack the domain point blank period out of the day. It's not fun during 2 hours. That's when people can kill you in argo, get you full death sick, this happened so I know. Happened yesterday to be exact. then go off and defend their domains.

It's stupid and we also have Br's and british folks playing this game. They have different time zones. So mixing it up wouldn't be bad. Also nerfing the army too.

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DeshTheWraith 10:42 AM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)

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reply to Magnus Sforzando:

5 hours is too long. I'm with a 30 min to hour increase. Trust me I know how annoying it is when people that don't have jobs wait for you to log off to burn your domain.



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Morrigan Ravensong 10:52 AM on August 14, 2012 (+1/-0)
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I think its sad that the same group who was bragging about how awesome they were that they could almost beat ancient at a low level cant handle a few weak ass domain guards at lvl 50, they are weak, not OP in the least, if you cant handle them your doing it wrong and should quit FFO. That being said Armies should be buffed if anything as they are way too easy already as it is, when we attacked trist not long ago I killed a few lvl 3 guards on my ninja with swift strike and they were dead before a forth of my mp was gone, seemed rather useless to have guards that weak. Blaxco needs to stop QQing about everything and acting like the game should be made to suit their needs as if the game was made just for them and lrn2ffo, Losers gonna QQ, So QQ more losers.

All I hear from blaxco is: “Wah we sux so much we cant kill underpowered domain armys, nerf plox!!!!111”

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Legendary Blax 11:24 AM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Like, are you this dumb or is your hatred towards me making you dumb? Guards are not, and I repeat ARE not considered as "army" they are GUARDS there to protect you, as 1 of them dies, THATS when they call reinforcements. Such as SWAT.


Of course Guards are weak. They aren't THERE to actually benefit people from not taking the domain. They are there to SLOW you down, make you cast turns against them and not the Citizens.

Anyway, Army thereselves are LIKE ancients. They have 50 people you can hire. They can attack fast, they all have different ele's they can RUN fast as ****. They are balanced though? Oook. And Dey for you saying Army is 100k hp. Pics or no such thing. Quit trying to sound good at this game, you aren't. But that's another topic.


Army is OP, Nerf and have siege do random time zones/limits.

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Ravinus 11:28 AM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)

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My opinion is, a nice nerf to army, or a lil nerf to army and a bigger siege.

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Legendary Blax 11:32 AM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Or heres another Idea. Lower the army/guards you can hire. Since 50 is a lot there some type of limit to them. Like below.

Make the army have atleast 15 required armies. 5mage 5 rangers 5 soliders or 15 mages or 15 archers etc.


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Magnus Sforzando 11:42 AM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)

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They may or may not actualy have had 100k hp last year, The point was that you have the same challenge now as we did then, whats your problem?

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Legendary Blax 11:48 AM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)
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What you're asking me is irrelevent. Don't over exaggerate trying to sound like you're good.

We're talking about armies being the domain. The purpose of you having a domain is to take care of it, not invest all your money from your mules into it and sit back as King Tut.

Not gonna work, I see changes should be added. I said if you don't want armies to get nerfed. That's because you own a domain. But they have to much hp. 5k per unit, and you have 50 to kill plus players. That doesn't sound possible with all them charging at you.

So I say, nerf army unit's hp. OR Nerf their max capacity to 15.

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DeshTheWraith 12:02 PM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)

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Nerfing armies is a bad idea in my opinion. You're pretty biased in that you guys just live out of Argo and try to burn whatever grabs your interest at the moment with no REAL consequences if you lose and wipe.

But a domain is hard work to build, maintain, organize, etc etc. Nerfing armies (which don't seem to hard to kill from personal experience) is just making it super easy for anyone to just come ruin someones hard work.

With the attempt at removing mules from the game it's not just the domain lords hard work that would be lost, but the hard work of every player that lives in that domain. It shouldn't be that easy for 8 or so people to destroy an army.

Armies are MEANT to be strong, and they're meant to require a strategy to destroy. And in my opinion, they're not even meant to be wiped out in one night, but with the way siege works if you don't kill the army right then it'll be back full force which isn't fair to the attackers.

Honestly, I think palisades could use a miniscule reduction in effectiveness, but armies are fine.


I WOULD like to attack a domain to get a better feel for them though, because I kind of feel like I'm talking out of my ass, having not attacked a domain this hosting.

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Legendary Blax 12:09 PM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)
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DeshTheWraith wrote:
Nerfing armies is a bad idea in my opinion. You're pretty biased in that you guys just live out of Argo and try to burn whatever grabs your interest at the moment with no REAL consequences if you lose and wipe.

But a domain is hard work to build, maintain, organize, etc etc. Nerfing armies (which don't seem to hard to kill from personal experience) is just making it super easy for anyone to just come ruin someones hard work.

With the attempt at removing mules from the game it's not just the domain lords hard work that would be lost, but the hard work of every player that lives in that domain. It shouldn't be that easy for 8 or so people to destroy an army.

Armies are MEANT to be strong, and they're meant to require a strategy to destroy. And in my opinion, they're not even meant to be wiped out in one night, but with the way siege works if you don't kill the army right then it'll be back full force which isn't fair to the attackers.

Honestly, I think palisades could use a miniscule reduction in effectiveness, but armies are fine.


I WOULD like to attack a domain to get a better feel for them though, because I kind of feel like I'm talking out of my ass, having not attacked a domain this hosting.


I'm not being biased I'm just saying lower the capacity. Like think about it, armies are meant to be defended (as I said before). You're right, I'm tired of being domainless. Because people only have basically 1 person living in most domains. And as of right now, I'm currently outlawed. You have to look at both sides here. We want a domain, WE will defend our domain when that times comes. But as of now, what is there? Nothing but armies (npc) that stands in our way. Strategy you're right, you have to plot it out. Why do you think we took Leam? IT was because some dummy left the door of a NPC house open, and we went in there and killed the army off. It was hard, yet, we managed.


My point in saying is, if you want a domain and want to be lord commit all your hard work in it, defend it also. Don't just store 400k into the domain and call it "complete" that's completely absurd. People live in a domain and store there **** in a domain because it's considered a home. So what do you do when you live in a home and someone comes to attack it?

You don't pick up the phone and call 911 because they are gonna be there in 2secs. YOU FIGHT. But now a days, people are just hiding behind that domain and just getting too much ego out of that.

Let's do the right thing and lower that capacity

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Morrigan Ravensong 12:11 PM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Mages are easier to kill than the guards are, which is WHY I used the guards as an example, the archers seem rather pointless too as they die just as easy as the little green starter guard all domains have, gtfo blax and quit *****ing cause you suck at FFO.

Nobody cares blaxco.
Nobody cares blaxco.
Nobody cares blaxco.
Nobody cares blaxco.
Nobody cares blaxco.
Nobody cares blaxco.

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Morrigan Ravensong 12:17 PM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)
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You're right, I'm tired of being domainless. Because people only have basically 1 person living in most domains. And as of right now, I'm currently outlawed.


That is nobody's fault but your own, Quit being a manner-less asshole and you might get to join the civilized portion of FFO in one of the domains.

Wait you had GsH but are too weax to keep it, again your own fault.

You have to look at both sides here. We want a domain, WE will defend our domain when that times comes.


Just because your side cant do what everybody else has does not mean things should be made easier just for you, You are not that special. Get over it and earn your **** like the rest of FFO.

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Legendary Blax 12:18 PM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Morrigan Ravensong wrote:
Mages are easier to kill than the guards are, which is WHY I used the guards as an example, the archers seem rather pointless too as they die just as easy as the little green starter guard all domains have, gtfo blax and quit *****ing cause you suck at FFO.

Nobody cares blaxco.
Nobody cares blaxco.
Nobody cares blaxco.
Nobody cares blaxco.
Nobody cares blaxco.
Nobody cares blaxco.
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What you just posted is all irreverent. I told Gaku, posting in here would just get stupid and off topic. You're obviously mad because you hate us.

But that's another topic. We're trying to balance this out, actually pk people, not fight armies and soliders/rangers/mages/guards. We're trying to fight ACTUAL players. It's boring and stupid because you all hide behind armies because you aren't permanent. outlawed at all domains. So for us to actually capture a domain, we gotta come to boundaries and agreements.

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Morrigan Ravensong 12:23 PM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)
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But that's another topic. We're trying to balance this out, actually pk people, not fight armies and soliders/rangers/mages/guards. We're trying to fight ACTUAL players. It's boring and stupid because you all hide behind armies because you aren't permanent. outlawed at all domains. So for us to actually capture a domain, we gotta come to boundaries and agreements.



You basically just admitted to what me and everybody else has been saying, thank you for that. You just want to spam PK the players in an attempt to make everybody quit and are mad because you are so unwanted in FFO that you are outlawed in all domains and can not only not join any but can't easily kill people and achieve your goal. GG.

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Legendary Blax 12:27 PM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Morrigan Ravensong wrote:
But that's another topic. We're trying to balance this out, actually pk people, not fight armies and soliders/rangers/mages/guards. We're trying to fight ACTUAL players. It's boring and stupid because you all hide behind armies because you aren't permanent. outlawed at all domains. So for us to actually capture a domain, we gotta come to boundaries and agreements.



You basically just admitted to what me and everybody else has been saying, thank you for that. You just want to spam PK the players in an attempt to make everybody quit and are mad because you are so unwanted in FFO that you are outlawed in all domains and can not only not join any but can't easily kill people and achieve your goal. GG.


Tell me, refresh my memory. What is FFO to you guys? I thought Final Fantasy Online was.....PVP anywhere, anytime. FFO like NEVER before. FFO where good things can go bad real quick. This isn't a chat game. They closed all those on Byond. This isn't 'sit in a domain behind guards/army talk **** and brag about how you can't get killed because you don't have to train behind army etc'. What I'm saying is, YEA I want to fight, YEA I want to show off my training use, YEA I want to burn domains and YEA I want to enjoy FFO like everyone else.

THIS IS NOT MAPLE STORY! If you do not like fighting people, GET off THIS game!

I'm tired of responding to your nonsense. It's getting irritating.

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Wtfimbored20 12:28 PM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Morrigan Ravensong wrote:
But that's another topic. We're trying to balance this out, actually pk people, not fight armies and soliders/rangers/mages/guards. We're trying to fight ACTUAL players. It's boring and stupid because you all hide behind armies because you aren't permanent. outlawed at all domains. So for us to actually capture a domain, we gotta come to boundaries and agreements.



You basically just admitted to what me and everybody else has been saying, thank you for that. You just want to spam PK the players in an attempt to make everybody quit and are mad because you are so unwanted in FFO that you are outlawed in all domains and can not only not join any but can't easily kill people and achieve your goal. GG.


Aside from that, Black and his posse brings excitement and fun to the game. The social community of FFO can only do so much till it gets boring. Logging on, idling in town and talking for a few hours then log off. Hostile domain warfare/players gives a rush of fun and realism to the game. Everyone hates black, then hes doing his job right.

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Morrigan Ravensong 12:35 PM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)
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FFO is an RP game, and that is Gaku's words. Not a PvP game.

Aside from that, Black and his posse brings excitement and fun to the game. The social community of FFO can only do so much till it gets boring. Logging on, idling in town and talking for a few hours then log off. Hostile domain warfare/players gives a rush of fun and realism to the game. Everyone hates black, then hes doing his job right.


There are better ways to have domain warfare and excitement without having a group like blaxco on FFO, And I intend to tell gaku about them, upside being it wont require him to code anything to implement them! Giving him more time to work on Terulia and less time worrying about FFO.

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Heisenberg 12:35 PM on August 14, 2012 (+0/-0)
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armies already got lowered to 30, from 40 try having to deal with 10 more units thats a big difference as low as 10 sounds

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