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What's Wrong With Our Admins?, and what's wrong with this game
Goddess 8:07 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Now before I say this I just wanted to say I have nothing against the admins as people or players. This is my viewpoint on how our Admins work, and what I think should happen every pwipe.

Our Admins are hardly ever around. When they are they are mostly "affk", and they say that themselves. Now that Gale doesn't have a full-time job maybe he can be around more, but Darlute has stated that he will not be playing anymore because of school, which is entirely respectable.

But if you're not going to be around you should be letting other people have these positions. People that are active on the game and knows what's going on, when it's going on. Not people that you have to bombard a couple of days later saying "omg this happened!!" They should be around to take care of issues right away.

Awhile ago, there was some obvious bull**** about the Icon Checkers that I brought up to the community, which they all agreed with me. I have been told by the Admins that they don't give two ****s about what the community thinks and only what the two of them think. Why have people in these positions of power that don't care about their community?

I even brought up the topic to Gaku and he said, "I don't understand why this is even being debated." Which leads me to the point of Gale denying Darlute to do the right thing because he stuck up for his friends Kikuri and Relleth. It has been said by David many times that they shouldn't have friends, to avoid bias decisions. Letting them keep their positions and throughout my relentless expression of viewpoints to the both of them, apparently something got decided to fix the icon checking process.

Now besides for the bad decision making, and not being able to come up with a decision because there are only two admins. Both of the people in question have abused bugs. Bug abusers should not be admin-ing, it encourages bad behavior, and they don't ban themselves or their friends because they keep it hush hush.

The bug I'm talking about is the 'sub-ordinate domain tax bug' and duping bugs. Cea, Zeno, Haze, Darlute, Gale, and whoever else was in that group did that tax bug. It generated millions upon millions of gold for them, and they never brought it up until sometime the last year. Whenever I took a domain with RNCBP, I would always notice the sub-ordinate domain tax being a character that you could never put in manually, I was very confused. I never brought it up because I didn't know what it was giving them until someone from that group told me(who wishes to remain disclosed).

The person who broke into the houses of IGH and IC showed me the items. There were tons of duped items in there, about 5 Perfect Wizard Staves, 3 Great Demon Knives of the Bat, and some others I can't remember. I will not disclose this person's name either.

They are biased no matter how much they try to deny it. There's a lot of **** Darlute has said to me that I showed to Gaku who has probably been waiting for me to make this topic for weeks throughout all the *****ing I have done to him about it. Now that there's a PWipe I decided it was finally time.

There should be a vote for new admins every pwipe with players from different cliques getting decided on instead of there being Admins from the same group. There should be three admins in total to remain 2:1 votes so things can be decided on. Admins should not be the people that are buddy-buddy with people. They should be active players of the game.



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Exophus 8:13 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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If what you're saying is true, then new admins wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. But given the community of this game, the quality pickings are few.

Aside from that, I think 3 admins should be a no-brainer if Gaku isn't going to be the tie-breaker.

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Legendary Blax 8:18 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Exophus wrote:
If what you're saying is true, then new admins wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. But given the community of this game, the quality pickings are few.

Aside from that, I think 3 admins should be a no-brainer if Gaku isn't going to be the tie-breaker.



Welp...yea....me. :} No jokes.

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Exophus 8:20 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Legendary Blax wrote:
Exophus wrote:
If what you're saying is true, then new admins wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. But given the community of this game, the quality pickings are few.

Aside from that, I think 3 admins should be a no-brainer if Gaku isn't going to be the tie-breaker.



Welp...yea....me. :} No jokes.


I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.

By saying 'no jokes' you're trying to trick us into thinking it wasn't a joke, when in fact it was.

YOUUUU.... ;)

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Goddess 8:20 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Legendary Blax wrote:
Exophus wrote:
If what you're saying is true, then new admins wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. But given the community of this game, the quality pickings are few.

Aside from that, I think 3 admins should be a no-brainer if Gaku isn't going to be the tie-breaker.



Welp...yea....me. :} No jokes.


An interesting and honestly fair admin choice in my head would be Blax, myself, and either Gale/Keizer/Relleth. These people are from different group and have totally different viewpoints.

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Legendary Blax 8:21 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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reply to Goddess:

Consider it Ga***u!!!! ;o

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Exophus 8:22 PM on September 07, 2012 (+2/-0)
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If I was Gaku, I probably wouldn't put anyone who nominates themselves into an admin position. No matter what your motives truly are, it SEEMS like you have a hidden agenda.

Plus I honestly don't think Blax meets the ACT requirement to be an admin.

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Goddess 8:23 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Exophus wrote:
If I was Gaku, I probably wouldn't put anyone who nominates themselves into an admin position. No matter what your motives truly are, it SEEMS like you have a hidden agenda.

Plus I honestly don't think Blax meets the ACT requirement to be an admin.


Yeah because my hidden agenda is getting **** done the right way apparently.

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Exophus 8:26 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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I feel like you took that as me saying you in particular.

I'm saying that, from an unbiased standpoint, anyone who would nominate themselves for admin would seem like they have some ulterior motives.

Like Blax being ridiculously persistent in the matter. That's a little shady, yo.

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Purespeed1806 8:26 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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Anyone that spams the forums with why "THEY" should be admin....should not be admin. If you deserve admin, people would vote for you. Or you would at least be humble enough to state you would like admin once and see what happens from there. There are post all over the forums saying why a person should be admin, posted by said person. Lmao contol yourself plz and it might come to those who deserve it. Gaku for admin 2012....or at least take a look at the people that dont spam they want admin.

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Goddess 8:28 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Purespeed1806 wrote:
Anyone that spams the forums with why "THEY" should be admin....should not be admin. If you deserve admin, people would vote for you. Or you would at least be humble enough to state you would like admin once and see what happens from there. There are post all over the forums saying why a person should be admin, posted by said person. Lmao contol yourself plz and it might come to those who deserve it. Gaku for admin 2012....or at least take a look at the people that dont spam they want admin.


Why not give it to people who express an interest in the position?

You don't get jobs by not applying for them.

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Professor 8:29 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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FYI, we were reworking the entire icon checking system. That's why we weren't removing all the icon checkers and making you one at your demand. It'll all be done for next hosting, but we won't need icon checkers until level 20-30.

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Exophus 8:29 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Being an admin on FFO isn't a job, it's a burden. Why would someone be so persistent in wanting that unless they truly think they could make a difference, or they have ulterior motives?

Given the track record of our community, the latter is more likely for most.

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Purespeed1806 8:32 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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Expressing you want something and making a post over and over on the same subject is two entirely different things. Just stating. I dont see anything wrong with the current admins and as far as i can tell they are not spamming reasons why they should stay admin. Either way i could care less. If blax controlled himself a little more i would say he could be admin. But all this spaming on the forums about how said person should be admin...well its just plain sad and pathetic. Gaku for admin 2012.
Btw reason i vote gaku...hes not there most of the time so if you have a problem you either have to deal with it yourself or provide a **** ton of evidence to him to make a case.

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Goddess 8:32 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Professor wrote:
FYI, we were reworking the entire icon checking system. That's why we weren't removing all the icon checkers and making you one at your demand. It'll all be done for next hosting, but we won't need icon checkers until level 20-30.

Sounds good to me, have anything else to say about anything I pointed out in this topic? Defend yourself? Or something?

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Draven 8:35 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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The only people fitting to be admin for FFO would not want to be admin for FFO. It is a thankless job that nobody appreciates ever, and all it does is get the admins that try to do their job hated ingame.

Case in point: Every single time I see something brought up in the forums about the admins, no matter who the group is, or has been, the screams of BIAS are made. Nobody can accept a damn decision without raging hardcore.

Hell, even handling the forums is a nigh thankless job.

This community is honestly the entire problem with the "admins", not the admins themselves. Once the community is able to mature and accept a damn ruling instead of raging against the machine, then we might see some progress.



As an addendum, I still support my suggestion of "Anyone who is an ingame admin may not actually play the game other than to administrate." Being an admin is not "yay i has teh playtoys!!!", it's a duty. If you're willing to sacrifice your ability to play the game in order to keep the game running smoothly, then I would be willing to support said person for admin.

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Darlute 8:37 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)

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I still exist celestia...I still exist

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Exophus 8:38 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Draven wrote:
stuffs he wrote


Agreed. However, I honestly can't see anyone wanting to be around for admin shiz if they aren't playing the game. Bigger games have that luxury because those positions are paid, which is also why there's no abuse 95% of the time.

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Goddess 8:39 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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Darlute wrote:
I still exist celestia...I still exist

<3

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Mint 8:39 PM on September 07, 2012 (+0/-0)
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that duping thing is really ****ing implausible. why would you want a perfect wiZard staff? how much would that be a cast? ~200 gold? let alone one for every wizard. and i dont think anyone in northern irendi is stupid enough to dupe an item 5 times and leave them in around the same place. are you really that desperate to be admin? and who was the thief since your story is TOTALLY 100% LEGIT

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