Does anyone else think it's too low?

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They drop things just as often as any other mob. It's just more noticeable since they take longer to kill.

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Really? cuz I can kill 10 dragons and MAYBE get 1 drop if I'm lucky, and then I can run around Leam and get 7 drops from 10 mobs.


plus with how much they degrade and wreck gear I'm not sure if it's entirely worth it.

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reply to Goddess:

If you ask Smith, Zkiller, Haste, anyone from Blaxco, me, and anyone else from IGH and up, they'd say Dragons are pretty worthwhile.

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So to make dragons worthwhile you have to have a decked out character already so your gear doesn't get too ****ed up. Also need lots of friends.


Got cha.

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Dr. Letha wrote:

reply to Goddess:

If you ask Smith, Zkiller, Haste, anyone from Blaxco, me, and anyone else from IGH and up, they'd say Dragons are pretty worthwhile.

latley no to be honest

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reply to Goddess:

Yes, actually. You have to be strong to reap the rewards from stronger locations. Would a fresh-off-the-island Black Mage get any sort of reward from Desert? No, because they aren't strong enough for it.

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Why not just remove dragons, they are an obvious problem

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reply to Rarity:

Why not just remove FFO, it is full of obvious problems.

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Why not just make all the points of every monster everywhere off of nb equal?

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reply to Goddess:

There would be absolutely no reason to ever venture past Vorg docks or WMC.

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Different monsters, different things to see.


I thought you all enjoyed that aspect of the game which is why no one felt a real reason for perma chests to be back into the game?

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so your saying all monsters should have equal stats? LOL!..

No... that would make the game god awfully nub easy..

Edit: did I misread something?

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"Hey man, let's go fight dragons, they're really hard."
"Nah broski, we can kill ogres outside Giant's Helm, they drop the same stuff and take two clicks to kill!"
"Good point! Man, why do dragons even exist? Nobody wants to even bother with them. They break our armor fierce and don't even give cool loot."


As entertaining as the idea is, it's about as smart an idea as enabling permadeath for this game. It both completely ruins all content beyond just outside GsH for serving a purpose AND will completely ruin any semblance of progression. It's not fun to find that Fine Guardian Buckler if you can't even use iron yet, and won't due to WLC/PLC for quite some time.

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Oh I thought we were discussing about closing out dragons and then making everything the same points.

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Draven wrote:

it's about as smart an idea as enabling permadeath for this game.

Now there's an idea. ;)

Would make people think twice about randomly being ****s. Just buff players a lot but keep damage relatively low(would have to keep healing in check). Spam killing no longer an issue... I could see that **** being awesome if there were tweaks in other areas.

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I agree permadeath sounds like a cool new idea.

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drags have been cut off before from FFO, didn't really do much...

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Goddess wrote:

Oh I thought we were discussing about closing out dragons and then making everything the same points.

which still has that problem because if ruins mobs drop the same gear as argo mobs WELL GEE WHY EVER DO RUINS _{unless you're rell and want to see your monster icons}

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Killing the challenge in FFO will only ruin FFO.

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