If sometime in the future FFO holds another pwipe, I am going to stress so heavily something that should have been done pwipes ago:

Lower the damn points already.

We have Black Wizard McGee complaining about having to spend hours grinding up his Armor to wear an AW piece. This wouldn't be a problem in a hosting that actually had acceptable item scaling instead of, "Oh, Garland time, we now have the best of the best gear."

Posting this here to let that little idea sink in; to be bumped in the future if a pwipe comes around again.

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There's no reason a level 20 starter boss on the starter island should outgear big party super champs at level 40.

I agree.

We should make two levels of champs. Have one champ that's a champ and then have an elite which is like super boss and super rare (need a big party to even try) and super own your face.

Just kidding any idea posted will have some nub complain about it and besides BLAH BLAH TERULIA amirite

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This is just an idea, but maybe the problem with Garland is the randomness of the drops. If an actual newbie, or somebody who has no intention of creating Garland alts doesn't get lucky, then they will just be that much more behind the other players. The best solution to this would probably be to have more bosses after garland, which I guess frost dragons are meant to be, but I'm thinking something in between. You can't have a game where finding the best gear, that randomly drops, without having somebody farm it. Trying to prevent it ruins the game, I don't see why nobody seems to understand that.

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Guys. No. Stop.

These ideas are COOL and I would LOVE for them to be implemented, but let's be honest, they probably won't be.

This thread is here for the sole purpose to remind me to bump it later and to give Gaku the idea that drop points are too damn high right now. I preferred back when Haste boots were rare. Now, we discard Speed boots because we have too many.

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Dear God I thought I was the only one thinking this.

Has anyone else noticed that we had less complaining about nerfs/buffs etc when top tier gear wasn't profusely involved or am I thinking crazy on this as well?

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Lowering all points in general I don't really understand. Why HAVE quake, sky, acceleration, colossus, etc, if it's literally impossible (and highly frowned upon) to get/have?

It should be Garland mid-tier gear then large party champ snowmen level 40 for top-tier.

If you guys are so hellbent on lowering points we could just turn it into terulia and remove all suffixes and prefixes and make the game an incredibly slow painful experience that makes everyone want to quit. :P

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Cea wrote:

Lowering all points in general I don't really understand. Why HAVE quake, sky, acceleration, colossus, etc, if it's literally impossible (and highly frowned upon) to get/have?

It should be Garland mid-tier gear then large party champ snowmen level 40 for top-tier.

If you guys are so hellbent on lowering points we could just turn it into terulia and remove all suffixes and prefixes and make the game an incredibly slow painful experience that makes everyone want to quit. :P

I'm pretty sure the points system works so that over time it steadily gets better. If a server stays up for something like two years, champions will be dropping speeds easily, possibly accels, too.

If not then yeah, it would be nice if there were something really difficult to give top-tier gear that ISN'T GARLAND.

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bump since we got a pwipe LOL

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Silver Swords.



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Shane wrote:

bump since we got a pwipe LOL

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Cea wrote:

There's no reason a level 20 starter boss on the starter island should outgear big party super champs at level 40.

I agree.

We should make two levels of champs. Have one champ that's a champ and then have an elite which is like super boss and super rare (need a big party to even try) and super own your face.

Just kidding any idea posted will have some nub complain about it and besides BLAH BLAH TERULIA amirite

I suggested something like this awhile ago.
It would be nice to have though.

Edit: ever thought of having a random quest generator?
It's an idea from skyrim, but it would be useful, keeps sum people from getting bored. :P

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what you nubs talking about my armor is 15 and its leveling whenever i level+ monster hitting me

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I would agree, if Garland wasn't essentially the end game boss.

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Magnus Sforzando wrote:

I would agree, if Garland wasn't essentially the end game boss.

Garland is a story final boss; as Alduin is on skyrim.
Quest gens are sub quests. Or am I misreading an assuming like a fool?

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Shane wrote:

Guys. No. Stop.

These ideas are COOL and I would LOVE for them to be implemented, but let's be honest, they probably won't be.

This thread is here for the sole purpose to remind me to bump it later and to give Gaku the idea that drop points are too damn high right now. I preferred back when Haste boots were rare. Now, we discard Speed boots because we have too many.

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Shane wrote:

Shane wrote:

Guys. No. Stop.

These ideas are COOL and I would LOVE for them to be implemented, but let's be honest, they probably won't be.

This thread is here for the sole purpose to remind me to bump it later and to give Gaku the idea that drop points are too damn high right now. I preferred back when Haste boots were rare. Now, we discard Speed boots because we have too many.

Right, I'll keep that in mind.

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Whats everyone's obsession with not enjoying the full content of the game? I enjoy having epic gear that I'll likely never engrave. I don't want something everyone can get eventually, there's no thrill in that.

It's just....boring.

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DeshTheWraith wrote:

Whats everyone's obsession with not enjoying the full content of the game? I enjoy having epic gear that I'll likely never engrave. I don't want something everyone can get eventually, there's no thrill in that.

It's just....boring.

It's not that I don't enjoy high tier stuff, I just really don't think that upper-mid tier stuff should be unlocked as soon as people leave the island and high tier stuff be unlocked as soon Garland is a thing.

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Shane wrote:

DeshTheWraith wrote:

Whats everyone's obsession with not enjoying the full content of the game? I enjoy having epic gear that I'll likely never engrave. I don't want something everyone can get eventually, there's no thrill in that.

It's just....boring.

It's not that I don't enjoy high tier stuff, I just really don't think that upper-mid tier stuff should be unlocked as soon as people leave the island and high tier stuff be unlocked as soon Garland is a thing.

You're exaggerating and we both know it. Upper mid tier is crimson/enchanter stuff. Sorc isn't even available until domain shops are built. So no, it's not unlocked as soon as people leave the island. Best you'll see at the moment is champ floor 2 WT for now.

These complaints are mostly from people that never get their hands on top tier items.

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DeshTheWraith wrote:

Shane wrote:

DeshTheWraith wrote:

Whats everyone's obsession with not enjoying the full content of the game? I enjoy having epic gear that I'll likely never engrave. I don't want something everyone can get eventually, there's no thrill in that.

It's just....boring.

It's not that I don't enjoy high tier stuff, I just really don't think that upper-mid tier stuff should be unlocked as soon as people leave the island and high tier stuff be unlocked as soon Garland is a thing.

You're exaggerating and we both know it. Upper mid tier is crimson/enchanter stuff. Sorc isn't even available until domain shops are built. So no, it's not unlocked as soon as people leave the island.

These complaints are mostly from people that never get their hands on top tier items.

Crimson Bracelets can/could spawn in shops.

Level 27 Garlands are often unfavorable because they drop too expensive stuff.

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